Posts by Bob Loblaw

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Should I talk to Joel Engardio on the phone? What would you ask him?

by Bob Loblaw in

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so i met this girl last night whose best friend is best friends with joel engardio.

i said that i would really like to talk to him and she said that she could get me his phone number and he would be happy to speak with me.

i haven't seen the film "knocking" yet,...so i don't really know what i would discuss with him at this point.

Bob Loblaw

Thanks everyone for your excellent thoughts and comments. I will definitely watch the film soon. Thanks Gayle for the heads up on the "mail it forward", but I am going to purchase my own copy. Unfortunately we (myself and Joel) live in different cities, otherwise it would be really nice to go out casually for a few beers and conversation and he would probably be more apt to open up on many of the above issues. So I don't know how cool he will be with answering such critical questions from a stranger over the phone. I guess I'll see if it comes to that.

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When DID the Jews return?

by Doug Mason in

the wts says that the key date in the jews return from babylon is tishri 1 537 bce.. the wts uses that date to arrive at its incorrect date of 607 bce for the destruction of jerusalem.

in turn, its 607 bce date is used to provide the date of october 1914 ce for christs parousia and the setting up of gods kingdom government.

the wts claims to be the sole representative upon earth of gods kingdom.. the date of the jews return is thus crucial to the watchtower societys (wts) existence and authority.

Bob Loblaw

When DID scholar return?

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Should I talk to Joel Engardio on the phone? What would you ask him?

by Bob Loblaw in

jw
friends

so i met this girl last night whose best friend is best friends with joel engardio.

i said that i would really like to talk to him and she said that she could get me his phone number and he would be happy to speak with me.

i haven't seen the film "knocking" yet,...so i don't really know what i would discuss with him at this point.

Bob Loblaw

So I met this girl last night whose best friend is best friends with Joel Engardio. I said that I would really like to talk to him and she said that she could get me his phone number and he would be happy to speak with me. I haven't seen the film "knocking" yet,...so I don't really know what I would discuss with him at this point. However, reading others threads about "Knocking, the first thing that comes to my mind would be to encourage him to make another film that is more critical and highlights the sexual abuses and tragedies of the ban on blood transfusions. What would you ask him?

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The Scotsman...this thread is started for you if you wish to comment....

by FreedomFrog in

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the scotsman said:.

<< tee hee - dubs will believe anything, lol.>>.

that's good because you shouldn't believe everything you hear in this world.

Bob Loblaw

"Jehovah has always "gradually" revealed his purpose to mankind. John was given the Revelation - but did he understand it all? No. Why? He did not need to know." Sure John didn't understand it all, but those words he was inspired to write down haven't changed. The "inspired" words the GB has written down have changed a myriad of times.

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Do JW's believe the third temple will be rebuilt?

by Bob Loblaw in

so i just read this article "strumming to the third temple" (http://www.infolive.tv/en/infolive.tv-6231-israelnews-strumming-third-temple) (beautiful harps btw) and it made me wonder if the wts believes that a third temple will be built.

many religious jews and evangelical/ fundamentalist christians believe a third temple will be built,...so what about the jw's?

do they have any teachings on the subject?

Bob Loblaw

Well, if the third temple is actually built one day,...that should make things rather interesting according to the doctrinal problems it poses for JW theology. There are a few movements who want to see this happen asap. The Temple Insitute (http://www.templeinstitute.org) and The Temple Mount Faithful (http://www.templemountfaithful.org) and the newly reestablished Sanhedrin (http://www.thesanhedrin.org). Here's an excerpt from the Sanhedrin: 28 Iyar 5765. The Sanhedrin calls upon all groups who work in the area of Temple and Temple Mount-related research and activity, to begin to prepare detailed architectural plans for the construction of the Holy Temple, towards the goal of its establishment in its proper place. The Sanhedrin will establish a forum of architects and engineers whose goal will be to implement this decision, so that detailed working plans are effectively brought to an operational stage. The Sanhedrin calls upon the Jewish people to contribute towards the acquisition of materials for the purpose of rebuilding the Holy Temple; the gathering and preparation of prefabricated, disassembled portions of this building to be stored and ready for rapid assembly, in the manner of King David. These contributions will be consider "chulin," i.e., non-sacred, for the purpose of the planning and construction of the Temple.

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Do JW's believe the third temple will be rebuilt?

by Bob Loblaw in

so i just read this article "strumming to the third temple" (http://www.infolive.tv/en/infolive.tv-6231-israelnews-strumming-third-temple) (beautiful harps btw) and it made me wonder if the wts believes that a third temple will be built.

many religious jews and evangelical/ fundamentalist christians believe a third temple will be built,...so what about the jw's?

do they have any teachings on the subject?

Bob Loblaw

So I just read this article "Strumming to the Third Temple" (http://www.infolive.tv/en/infolive.tv-6231-israelnews-strumming-third-temple) (beautiful harps btw) and it made me wonder if the WTS believes that a third temple will be built. Many religious Jews and evangelical/ fundamentalist Christians believe a third temple will be built,...so what about the JW's? Do they have any teachings on the subject?

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When Did You Start Feeling Uncomfortable In The Truth?

by The wanderer in

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when did you start feeling uncomfortable in the truth?it started out for me by asking questions out of curiosity, which eventually led me.

out of the organization.

my history as a jehovahs witness could easily be summed .

Bob Loblaw

I was a nine year old pistol of a kid who liked to question things a lot even though I really believed and loved Jehovah. The CO visit was coming up and my mom took me and all of my brothers to get our hair cut. I thought to myself,..."why are we going these lengths to impress someone we don't even really know." The CO's visit came and after the meeting he was standing at the door and saying hello/goodbye to those heading out the door. I walked up to him and he said, "looks like someone needs a haircut." That's it. Nothing else. I was so pissed. The entire ride home I was absolutely livid and vented to my mom and dad all the way home. "He didn't even ask me my name or introduce himself to me." "He doesn't know me and all he is interested in is critiquing my haircut." He made me feel like I, as a young human being, wasn't worth an introduction or even a handshake. My mom finally had it with my anger and venting and basically told me there is no need to question so much. I'll never forget that Sunday.

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